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mark parkinson at Aug, 19 '07 07:28
Put ipb-forex into a google search and it should be the first site listed. I just did that myself. I might add that HYIP Navigator has it listed as paying for quite sometime now.(Tho they're not the fasted when it comes to updated there info) BTW thanks for responding to my posts. Its nice when people take you seriously. Even when my spelling skills are very bad. I enjoy your blog. I've got it tagged as one of my favorites. New subject, what do yu think about Reverse Pension Plans.
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clifton at Aug, 19 '07 07:48
Hey Mark, I just found it, it really seems to be still working - http://www.ipb-forex.com/index1.asp Your spelling does not matter, not everyone has English as native language (neither I do). As for Reverse Pension Plans, do you mean in general or the HYIP which has that name?
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mark parkinson at Aug, 19 '07 07:58
The real problem is english is my first language. (tho some of my school teachers would debate that, especally after they have graded my school work) RPPs in general.
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mark parkinson at Aug, 20 '07 20:33
So clifton what do you think about ipb? I thought it would fit into your low risk catagory. You know the one thats empty right now.
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clifton at Aug, 20 '07 23:46
Hi Mark, I need a bit of time to investigate it before putting in the portfolio. But there is a chance, yes
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andy beltrame at Oct, 13 '07 20:16
hi clifton and mark. i also am interested in ipb. please let me know of your findings. tanxs, andy
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curtis collins at Oct, 27 '07 08:40
scam website not working
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clifton at Oct, 27 '07 11:00
Which website is not working, Curtis?
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mark parkinson at Oct, 27 '07 13:34
ibp site has been down for a week or so. It say temporarily unavailable. I doubt if it is scam tho. Scam is too strong a word used much to often and applied to every biz that doesn't meet everyone whim. Remember most start up biz fail with in the first year. US Small biz admin says about 80-85%. We've all seen them. Doesn't mean there con artist, just didn't have a strong enough biz too withstand troubles. In my opinion most of the HYIPs started out as legit biz ideas but were ran by wannabe forex traders or day traders. They probably lost there shirt along with our money. Just my opinion
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Mark at Oct, 27 '07 16:55
anyone know if Minvestment.com is legit ?? Thanks
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clifton at Oct, 27 '07 23:53
I seriously doubt they could be, Mark. It's just a HYIP.
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ACDC at Nov, 20 '07 03:18
Hi everybody, www.investment96.com site is down since 19.11.07.
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clifton at Nov, 20 '07 04:39
Do you have any details about this ACDC? they are often under DDOS so I thought that could be the reason
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ACDC at Nov, 20 '07 12:20
No details, Tony. Hope that DDOS is a reason
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ACDC at Nov, 22 '07 12:32
Tony, you've removed investment96 from your portfolio - do you have any details about them?
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Vlad at Nov, 22 '07 12:46
According to Richard, admin of i96, they are changing the server to a protected one. That might explain the downtime. But I think Tony has the other reasons to remove the program.
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clifton at Nov, 22 '07 13:13
Thanks for the info, Vlad. I removed just because it's down too long and that's not the first time. Looks a little bit unreliable at this point. I may put it back here if/when the site returns
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ACDC at Nov, 22 '07 13:19
OK, I see. Thank you, Vlad and Tony
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curtis at Nov, 22 '07 17:18
ipb is having major problems and i suggest you look at ipb-scam they are not paying and no help is available from their 1800 number
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makila at Nov, 25 '07 12:57
I suggest to re-add Infinityshares, altough the returns are poor, they do keep paying. And I suggest to remove invest manager from your list. This ponzi is starting to crumble. I know some other good program out there, but its very private and you cannot add it
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clifton at Nov, 25 '07 13:32
Hmm, I wouldn't classify InfinityShares a high yield investment, my bank gives better return. As for Invest manager, you are right, I removed the link. Will keep the record for a while yet so people who are in can see that they are not paying.
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makila at Nov, 25 '07 14:31
What bank is that? Deutsche bank returns 28% yearly and I consider that a lot already. And after taxes, only 15% are left for me, in my country taxes are insane.
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makila at Nov, 25 '07 14:33
So for my IS works out well, as I dont pay taxes on it(I am not stupid) Like usual, what is good for you aint necesserily good for someone else. It depends on where you live, how much your local banks pay and how much taxes are raised on it.
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Vlad at Nov, 27 '07 08:24
It's a pity that IS has stopped to announce their trading results to general public. As far as know their returns is a bit higher then 24% for year 2007 so far.
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Marla at Nov, 28 '07 23:18
Deutsche bank returns 28% yearly? Could you provide details on what program that is? Thanks
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makila at Nov, 29 '07 00:13
Deutsche bank is a real bank. And its just something someone told me. I didnt really checked whether Deutsche bank returns that much profit. As far as I know, IS returns slightly more money still than a normal bank, but what Clif probably means is that 1. Altough the total % of this year is a bit over 24% after november results, in the last 8 months the return at IS was only 6-7%, which is indeed not higher than when you buy stocks at a bank. And 2. Is the low return still worth all the trouble? With so many site owners running away .. I think you have to decide for yourself whether IS is still worth it. Enough said about it, I got more important things to do right now. Like earning money at my current job :)
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clifton at Nov, 29 '07 02:20
Yaa, guys, sorry you've gotten me too literally. I was speaking figuratively, the banks here give 8% max. But still the ROI of IS is too low to justify the risk which every HYIP holds. If it was a managed account, well I could be interested eventually.
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Davidoff at Nov, 29 '07 04:33
Hello guys, I found one interesting program which is supposedly online since 2005. It's called Nordage Investments. Here is the link: www.nordage.net They have a few plans and promised returns are more realistic in comparison to others IMO. Would like to hear your opinions. Is it worth investing? They also have something like a bank. Link: www.nordage.com Where you can store your e-currency and receive, I would say, an excellent interest (24% APY).. if they are real of course. But even if it's a game - they are very good in playing it.
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Davidoff at Nov, 29 '07 04:38
And just to add Investment96 is back online and paying.
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makila at Nov, 29 '07 04:45
I know this company. The profit rates are a bit strange. Its hard to say whether they are real or fake because just as most other good investment sites the owners are "hiding" their identities and current location. In the past hiding was seen as a method to scam but recently even honest people have to hide their ID because big brother will otherwise shut them down.(we have seen this happening with GOD and CEP this year) Nothing is worse when your favourite site is shut down because the FED's are low on budget again and decided to steal some money from the investor.
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Davidoff at Nov, 29 '07 04:50
Deutsche bank is one of the largest and best known banks in the world. It's just in high street banks you get 4-5% per year on your savings. Yeah, it's safe, but surely not enough.
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Davidoff at Nov, 29 '07 05:10
Thanks makila for your input. Yes, I have to agree.. even an honest man would find it difficult and complicated to run a successful program online nowadays. Just take a look at what happened to Liberty Dollar.
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mark parkinson at Nov, 29 '07 19:51
I tried to do some dd on nordage. The phone listed didn't work. The adress goggled to a real point on the map but it seems that its just a building or office complex. Nordage is not listed with the better business bureau of new jersy. The bank is not listed on the FDIC web site. Alos I tried to do a search thru the online yellow book and white book telephone directories but found nothing.
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Vlad at Jan, 08 '08 12:18
Hello Tony, I see GalleonFX performing very good this year. Do you think it is safe to invest in it or in FXCM? What are your thoughs, will they be able to keep such a good performance this year? Average ROI more then 6% per month is very good I think, I even think it is too good to be true for a long time. What re you thoughts?
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clifton at Jan, 08 '08 13:07
hi Vlad, right now, from January start, Galleon has been total disaster. My account which was 40%+ is not close to its initial value. If I were you, I would wait to see some news and explanation from them before investing. FXCM should be safer, it's not automated trading as far as I know.
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clifton at Jan, 08 '08 13:09
"My account which was 40%+ is not close to its initial value" I meant to say "is NOW close"
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makila at Jan, 08 '08 14:06
Hi Vlad, Alain has a test account, so does Clif. It appears Gallion FX is breaking even so far. Remember they trade with high risk. If you have a 1000$ account and you make 4% profit, lets assume Gallion FX takes 40% profit for a profitable trade and the next month -2% loss for example, you end up with 1003.52$ in your account or +0.352% profit after 2 months. However if you make 40% profit and the next month -20% loss, you would end up with 992$ or a loss of -0.8%! This is just an example, but what I want to say is, aggressive trading is not always more profitable than conservative trading. Gallion FX may be profitable, if they have a few months in a row with a nice profit, but a big loss hurts your account exponentially.
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makila at Jan, 08 '08 14:13
Lemme explain how I calculate the return. Conservative trading style(fictive) : 1000 * 4%(profit) = 40$ 40$ * 40%(Fee of Gallion FX) = 16$ account value = 1000 + 40 - 16 = 1024$ 1024 * -2%(loss) = 1003.52$ Profit 3.52$ or 0.352% Aggressive(Thats how Gallion FX does it) : 1000 * 40%(profit) = 400$ 400$ * 40%(Fee of Gallion FX) = 160$ account value = 1000 + 400 - 160 = 1240$ 1240 x -20%(loss) = 992$ Loss of 8$ = 0.8% Loss.
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makila at Jan, 08 '08 14:20
I know it doesnt make sense for some. A lot will say hey but 40% - 20% = 20%, so I should have 20% profit right after 2 months. The answer is NO, see my calculations, people tend to forget that the loss is not on the original investment, but on the current account value, which is higher after a profit.
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Vlad at Jan, 08 '08 15:53
Hi Mak, I understand your calculations. The only sad thing here is that they take 40% from profits and does not compensate the losses. FYI, FXCM takes just 20% from profits. So as far as I understood from the above automated trading will not make you rich but in general it is better then put money in the bank (our banks' ROI is 9%-12% per year)
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Calvint at Jan, 08 '08 21:38
I believe Mak's 40% was a hypothetical, Galleon only takes a 25% performance fee on new equity highs. So if they do not consistently reach new equity highs in the long run neither investors or galleon make any profit.
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makila at Jan, 09 '08 00:01
Yeah, 40% was just used for the example/calculation. Its indeed hypothetical. if they do not consistently reach new equity highs in the long run neither investors or galleon make any profit. True, overall they need to make people a profit, but I just wanted to show people, that for you to make a profit, Gallionx FX on average has to make more profit then losses to *just* break even. Too many people think that +2%(profit) - 1%(loss) = 1%profit. They see Gallion post twice as much profit as loss and think its going well with gallionx FX while in reality people just break even. ;)
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makila at Jan, 09 '08 00:20
Now let's assume these are the results in the last 6 months : 40%, -30%, 40%, -30% , 40%, -30% and lets assume these are gross returns(could be net, but this doesnt really matter as this is just an example) Then after 6 months Gallion FX could say : hey Guys! We made 30% profit for our members! In reality, If they would take 25% for every profitable trade, Gallionx FX theirself *still* makes +30% profit during those 6 months. But lets see how much you would make? If you make the calculations, you will notice you will have a balance of 811.53$ after 6 months or a loss of -18.84%!. Not so great uh?
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makila at Jan, 09 '08 00:22
Correction gallion FX makes 30% profit on your profits. So they made just a few bucks, but you on the other hand lost *big* time. They didnt.
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clifton at Jan, 09 '08 01:46
Makilla is quite right, my account at the moment is exactly breaking even. Right now it's starting to look as a useless game to me. Maybe I should start playing the game myself and withdraw the profits in each high month instead of keeping them there.
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clifton at Jan, 09 '08 01:46
Makilla is quite right, my account at the moment is exactly breaking even. Right now it's starting to look as a useless game to me. Maybe I should start playing the game myself and withdraw the profits in each high month instead of keeping them there.
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CalvinT at Jan, 09 '08 02:08
I hate to argue details but according to my statement they are only taking a perf fee of 25% from my account. But you are absolutely right if you lose 20% of $100 you have $80, but if you gain 20% off of that $80 you have $96, so money management is the key and Galleon sure is stinking it up in 2008.
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Vlad at Jan, 09 '08 06:19
Do they take 25% basing on the daily profits or basing on the monthly results? Tony, for your info, FXCM offers a number of algorithms to perform auto trading for your account, and even more. It is possible to use the combination of such algorithms.
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clifton at Jan, 09 '08 06:44
They take 25% on net profits only. So lets say you start with $1,000 and make 10% gain first month. After the fee you'll have $1075. Then in the next 3 months for example they make 20% loss total. So you then have $860. Then in the next month if they make 20% profit you won't pay fee on that, because you'll have $1032 which means there are no new net profits. With Galleon you can't choose different algorithms. But you can have another trading account with FXCM if you want
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clifton at Jan, 09 '08 06:45
They take 25% on net profits only. So lets say you start with $1,000 and make 10% gain first month. After the fee you'll have $1075. Then in the next 3 months for example they make 20% loss total. So you then have $860. Then in the next month if they make 20% profit you won't pay fee on that, because you'll have $1032 which means there are no new net profits. With Galleon you can't choose different algorithms. But you can have another trading account with FXCM if you want
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Mr. Thomas at Jan, 10 '08 09:44
I know of two managed accounts currently that are yielding great monthly percents. One has a 25k minimum and the other a 5k minimum. One has yielded over 300% for 2007 and the other over 50%. These are just a few of the investments I have access to being a member of a private investment club. Also for investors with a different taste of investment style who don't want to put there funds at risk, I can show you where you can get a certificate deposit which will collect 1-2.5% monthly. With a registered bank and I have the documentation to prove the bank is real. Like I said earlier this is just a few of the investment offered by the investment club. They have been around since 2002. If anyone would like details on this investment club feel free to contact Mr. Thomas at CThomas_osms@yahoo.com
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clifton at Jan, 10 '08 09:55
I'll mail you right now, Thomas.
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hyipmonitor.info at Jan, 10 '08 10:16
Thomas, returns like 12-15% per year are real and there are A LOT of banks in xUSSR proposing such returns. There is nothing new in it. Form the other side I do not trust any private investment clubs making 300% per year.
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Thomas at Jan, 10 '08 13:00
That is just one investment that is offered. I depends on your risk. There are different investments to pick from with various returns. We also have investment that return around 12-15% a year if that is what you are shooting for.
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hyipmonitor.info at Jan, 10 '08 13:08
I'm not shooting for such investments - I already have a deposit at my local bank which returns 10% per year.
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Dawn Meservia at Jan, 10 '08 16:07
I would like to anything about Minvestment. I've been studying it and it seems legit -??
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mark parkinson at Jan, 10 '08 18:21
thank you for the tip. How many different investmnt ops are there. Does it cost to be a memeber. Do you get a percentage. I have no problem with that just trying to gauge your motives. Long term investment op are very hard to come by. Especally in the HYIP world. nye impossible to find one lasting more than a year. So it makes us all a little sceptical.
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mark parkinson at Jan, 10 '08 18:21
thank you for the tip. How many different investmnt ops are there. Does it cost to be a memeber. Do you get a percentage. I have no problem with that just trying to gauge your motives. Long term investment op are very hard to come by. Especally in the HYIP world. nye impossible to find one lasting more than a year. So it makes us all a little sceptical.
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Thomas at Jan, 10 '08 22:26
Yes, it does cost to be a member. They offer several investments from real estate,stocks,forex,banking,private banking,etc....This program will show you how to set up for a great finacial future. There are alot of things offered by the company to many for me to cover if you would like details just notify me.
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mark parkinson at Jan, 14 '08 06:57
Cool. Expect a email shortly. Anyone checked this guy out yet. any comments so far?
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hyipmonitor.info at Jan, 14 '08 09:19
I see no sense to even talk of such programs if they even do not have web site to present their services.
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mark parkinson at Jan, 14 '08 09:23
I see your point, but doesn't that increase the need for forum discussion. To help keep track of it. As for offline vs online you as a monitor know the hazards of being online better than most.
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Vlad at Jan, 23 '08 21:39
How do you think the latest events in USA will influence on Forex trading? My MA's balance at FXCM is down by 4% for Wednesday. What about GalleonFx?
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clifton at Jan, 24 '08 00:15
50% loss in GalleonFX since the beginning of Jan. I will revoke my LPOA tomorrow unless I see an improvement.
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makila at Jan, 24 '08 00:21
50% loss. Ack! Not good.
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Vlad at Jan, 24 '08 00:45
I'm thinking about the same. Possibly it is the best solution to suspend trading for some time, because the automated trading systems are not designed for the current marked conditions. Just my thoughts.
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clifton at Jan, 24 '08 01:13
I just don't understand how they allow this - somewhere was written that there is limit on maximum drawdown if I am not wrong. I.e. if it goes -25% or so for the month they stop trading. I am extremely disappointed. On the other hand revoking the LPOA right now may be a wrong move considering how much loss I'll have to undertake. That's why I am still thinking
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Vlad at Jan, 24 '08 01:28
I'm not sure regarding their terms. Possibly drawdown 25% is per trading day, not per month. Yes, if the balance on your account is less then $10K, then you will need to deposit additional money to start trading again. The same situation is with my account...
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Cavint at Jan, 24 '08 02:11
I agree Clifton, I'm on the verge of revoking my LPOA also, I'm glad I got in while it was relatively cheap!
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clifton at Jan, 25 '08 02:35
Patience pays well, the account is up with about 25% since yesterday. I am still at 7% -8% loss since inception, but glad I sustained the desire to stop it at much bigger down.
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Vlad at Jan, 25 '08 02:55
My FXCM account's balance has been increased for about 15% also.
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mykl595 at Jan, 26 '08 11:50
Hi, yeh ive been with minvestment for around 3 months. deposited £1000 originally and have around $12000 now with compound on...however cant withdraw until the 150 day lock in period is done, i am hoping for the best!
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makila at Jan, 28 '08 06:24
99% chance when payday is there, mininvest will crash on you. However there is still 1% chance, you can grab 11k profit(or more). Good luck.
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tola at Jan, 28 '08 18:43
Guys and chics out there please help me out on these, has any of you tried any of these programe (www.pluginprofitsite.com or www.plugin-income.com) what to find out if its a scam. the offer is nice but what to get info on them. Please help me out
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clifton at Jan, 29 '08 00:34
Tola, it is not a scam in sense that they promise you will make money. But it's not an investment, it's some e-book and other things that claim to teach you on making money online. I personally don't buy such things, because I think they are crap. Crap is not scam, but it's just that - crap.
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tola at Jan, 29 '08 14:21
Clifton, thanks so much for the clearification. just wanted to be sure, cheers tola
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jeremy at Jan, 30 '08 05:37
Hi all. First comment to this forum, which I think is great! Does anyone have an opinion on Largesum.com, which seems to have been around - and paying for close to a year? Is that maybe too late to start now?
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Mr.Thomas at Jan, 31 '08 12:22
A wealth of knowledge is provided here about VRG investment club: http://cthomas.vrgroup.info/contact.php No more worrying if the program is going to close down before you recieve your payout. This is the end of HYIP.
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Laurie at Feb, 01 '08 08:42
Mr. Thomas Is there a fee to access the information and knowledge at VRG?
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Mr. Thomas at Feb, 01 '08 23:38
Everything about fees are located on this website http://cthomas.vrgroup.info/contact.php, once you become a member you must set up you offshore entity. Now there are two to choose from. There is one which is for individuals who have already obtained wealth and the other for individuals who want to start. There are fees for the these but your retuns will outway this. Please contact me via email for more detaisls at CThomas_osms@yahoo.com
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mr.me at Feb, 05 '08 05:12
i started with galleon on january 8th. after a few days, fewer than 5..., i revoked the lpoa after i lost 3000€ or 11% of my equity. i don't know why, but i allowed the account trading again, one day ago. now i lost 1000€ again, which is 5 % of the equity, no end in sight, since they continuously let posivitve trades turn and close them with loss. it makes me really angry that even in such a DD they are not able to lock profits for fast recovery. there have been some opportunities yesterday to recover the loss of 5% and be up 3%, but what did they do as always? letting the trades turn red and close at loss. i will definitely quit this system and never try it again, since i see n o sense in the trading, how it is made since i started the fund. fxcm sentiment looks much better thus far.
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Vlad at Feb, 05 '08 06:01
I have started with FXCM (Sentiment Aggressive Fund) in the middle of January. My account is up by about 8% since then. But it too early to make conclusions.
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Dave at Feb, 06 '08 06:13
I started with Galleon too in January and i'm already down by over 10%, i need to know if its possible to revoke the LPOA and then grant it back a later time.
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mr.me at Feb, 06 '08 06:15
thats exactly what i did, yesterday a second time. just log in to myfxcm.com and there you'll find it.
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Dave at Feb, 07 '08 10:57
hi Clifton, I think its time you took out RTA online investment from your portfolio. i don't know how to look at the situation but definitely Max has done better than most! Whad ya think?
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Dave at Feb, 07 '08 10:57
hi Clifton, I think its time you took out RTA online investment from your portfolio. i don't know how to look at the situation but definitely Max has done better than most! Whad ya think?
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Dave at Feb, 07 '08 10:59
hi Clifton, I think its time you took out RTA online investment from your portfolio. i don't know how to look at the situation but definitely Max has done better than most! Whad ya think?
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clifton at Feb, 07 '08 13:20
You are right Dave, removed. I think Max was honest, just bad luck
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mrich at Feb, 07 '08 17:01
I started Sentiment Aggressive Fund in early Nov 2007. So far the results have not been good. My equity is down -11% since I started this account. It appears now that almost everyday is a losing day.
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janjan at Feb, 07 '08 18:39
You know guys, I am a person with lots of faith and it is from faith that springs hope. Hope is what we live by every day, it wakes us up, we hope to live for the rest of the day by faith etc, My point is, kep hope alive. When I read the article about the cables being cut I truly believe that this is what is happpening to MI. Someone told me last week that in 2006 MI was down for almost 2 months. People paniked but it came back. Is there anyone writing that has been in MI since 2006 and can recall this? If this is true, the article we read about the cables being cut down in East Asia for 2 months in December 2006 would be true. Can't a company be registered in one county and have their server/computer site (whatever you call it) in another country because of different factors eg. advanced technology in one country as oppose dto another. All I am saying less than 2 weeks is too early to start condenmation. Things dont always work out the way we want them. Perhaps if I was in MI positon, my concentration would be on to get the system up considering that so many persons are waiting to invest than to perhaps think about what the investors are saying. Reason I already have their funds, I need to do whatever in my power to get the system up to get more funds. Sometimes we criticize, but we do not think of what we would do if we were in the same postion.
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Mr. Thomas at Feb, 09 '08 00:27
The managed account that the investment club I am a member of returned 280% last year. It's starting 2008 of great to. The return for Jan. was 20% it's a 25k min after you join the club. If you would like to join the managed account without going through the club it runs around 150k-500k. Also we have another managed account that takes a more conservative approach to trading that returned somewhere around 60% for 5k. I just started my newsletter which gives weekly-monthly updates on returns and new programs that are introduced to our club members. The club has been around for 10+ years. If you would like to subscribe or want more info on some of our investment just shoot me an email - cthomas_osms@yahoo.com Also since alot of people can't afford to join our club since memberships run between $1500-4k we are introducing a feeder program that is a 5X5 forced matrix, it $99 dollars to join and you recieve a pre-paid debit card from a top bank in the world. When members finsih there matrix they recieve:20,000 in cash One $10,000 12 month Certificate of Deposit savings compounding at 1% per month! One $10,000 5 year Certificate of Deposit savings compounding at 2% per month ! One full membership in The Venture Resource Group: www.cthomas.vrgroup.info/contact.php One foreign corporation with banking and brokerage facilities available One holding company to work in hand with the corporation. $1000 security deposit made on your behalf for the pre-paid credit card Membership with corporate account in a European credit union - 9% per annual deposit account 5 more new re-entries into the system. You may enter as many times as you like with additional memberships! Everytime one member qualifies for S.A.M. benefits, he re-enters the S.A.M. with 5 new entries. So the members before you, help fill up the matrix for those members joining after 'times 5' ! Talk about acceleration !!
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mr.me at Feb, 09 '08 02:05
280% ? could you give us some statements? nevertheless, the website doesen't look really seriuous, same as the posted performance, but perhaps you can convince us.
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Mr. Thomas at Feb, 09 '08 03:13
What does a serious website look like? I'm not here to convince you to join me. You should just take a look at what we offer. There is alot of educational information available. If you want more knowledge on what our club offers go to: http://tinyurl.com/38g6qg This website does all the explaining for me. If you have questions contact the admin via live chat or call the offices or just go and visit yourself.
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mr.me at Feb, 09 '08 03:27
convinced! by the speaker of the flash intro :)
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Mr. Thomas at Feb, 09 '08 03:43
Just review the presentaions under the financial and portfolio building tab and that should be enough information for you to grasp how this membership can benefit anyone. If you want to chat with me to get more into details send your yahoo screen name to my email : cthomas_osms@yahoo.com
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mark parkinson at Feb, 09 '08 10:14
when I get funded I will be coming to you. I hope it will be soon. Im excited and those with me.
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Mr. Thomas at Feb, 15 '08 07:07
Get 12 free financial privacy and prosperity reports + updates on VRG invesments, returns, new investments, and financial education ifno. Just send an email to VRG1@getresponse.com with your name and email address. This is great info.
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HyipMonitor.info at Mar, 31 '08 12:27
Hi Tony, why have you removed FFG Trading from your portfolio?
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clifton at Mar, 31 '08 13:38
The site was down, HyipMonitor, I thought they were gone. I know about their new domain, but not sure if to bring them back.
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Maes at Apr, 01 '08 14:00
They are online for less than 2 months. If you ask me I think they still have much life in them. There is no way they will disappear now after investing so much money. It won't make sense if they do.
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